DertRhodes
I am posting my opinion about the Gully Washer race, and maybe some of you disagree but in the interest in making our series better I am presenting these points:

1)The riders meeting pretty much consisted of holding up arrows and "W's", and only the 10 riders around the speaker heard anything spoken.

2) The Start Banner.  Really?  Two guys standing next to a political sign (like they were the whole riders meeting) and knocking it over for the start.  No "banner up" or any other standard format.  

3) The 100 yard start....Every club picks how they want to start, but this was ridiculous...For riders to the far right it was a 100 yard start, and for riders to the far left it was a 250 yard start to the same point through talcum dust.  

4)The danger markings were grossly under utilized.  Granted, no club can (or should) try to mark every dangerous area.  However, there were dozens of unmarked g-outs and at least 5 trees that had unmarked jousting branches aimed directly at riders in tight washes.

5)The course marking was very sparse.  I was in the lead group of amateurs, and several times we had no idea where the course was.  We had to spread out and find the course more than once.   

6)2 check points for a 55 mile course?  

7)Requiring everyone to complete 2 laps to finish was really tacky.  It doesn't add anything to your event except fostering resentment towards the race organizers.  I heard one person say that was only so Gold Diggers would have to give out less trophies.  Hopefully that isn't the case.  I had enough of ice and cold after one lap and called it a day- and I am fine with the DNF.  I lived to fight another day.

8)The weather was about 22* at start time and was 33* on our way out.  This was definitely the coldest race I have ever been to.  

Overall I had fun (like anytime on 2 wheels with good people) but there were some serious failures on the organizers.  
Kudos to the GoldDiggers who took the time to make the event happen, and most of the course would have been much more fun if it wasn't frozen.

 
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Chattin
Man. I really dont know how to take this post. As a golddigger member all i can say i guess is For a club with the fewest members let alone 2 full time racers i thought all in all it was a great even. We had 1 issue that was club related that we screwed up. It shouldnt of happened but it did. 2 guys marked 2 different areas .. We had to remark after the storm last week and we screwed up. Thats All i can say about that. What does 2 check points have to do with anything. Nothing. I have done bigger races with the same or less checks'. Who ever said we did 2 to finish was to give out less trophies is straight up out of their minds. No way was that ever mentioned. It was a true desert race. Doing 54 miles in a 100 plus mile race is not doing a complete race. You may think so but old desert racers dont. We extended the peewees and minis so riders can get more racing for their buck on saturday as well. I am sorry we didnt put on a good enough quality event for some of you but i can truly say that spending about $500 of my own money and taking 3 days off of work and wasting 2 rear tires to try and to hear the complaining is making me personally to never wanna do it again. I mean when Mrann is disolved because no one races the same crappy courses your gonna wish you had a race like we had. Just my rant. Thanks chattin
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jludwick
Whoa! Quite the review.[eek]

Agree with you on the markings. I got semi-lost with 2 different groups at the back of the amateurs/lead novice. One section where we were off course even had a guy down with someone helping him. Then I watched a guy eat it in an unmarked G-out right in front of a sweep/course worker. This was all before the off camber downhill where we needed to search for markings after. 2nd loop had some yellow caution tape up where we first got off course...

Other than that, I dressed for the weather and did the 2 loops. The course was great, IMO. As far as personal preference, I didn't like the 1st half (before alt gas). 2nd half was a lot better.

Also, I had to get the finish to save face with my stepson...Because I scolded him for quitting on Saturday. Cold and tired and wanted to call it, but couldn't go home with a DNF after that[nono] 

Glad I stuck it out. Doing the course a 2nd time was worth it. 

It's a totally different area than the usual stuff. And I find it's quite refreshing. 
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ray sbriglia
Mr. DertRhodes,

1) Sorry we did not give you a standard pep talk.

2) Yes two guys, they forgot to read the standard starting  procedures book.

3) They picked 100 yards because they would have rather been sitting watching football in a warm chair.

4) At your high speeds this is a real concern and for that we are truly sorry.

5) We are truly sorry for this, we had a communication break down within the club. Nobody ever intentionally under marks course to miss lead racers or harm them.

6) Sorry you were lonely out there. Checks are there to keep you from cutting course not to have a hang out.

7) Tacky? less Trophies? Go do a national as a AM you have to do 2 laps so that's Tacky. I recently finished second and I pretty sure I'm not getting a trophy in Mrann.

8) The Weather Wow, I'm not sure how to answer this one. Pretty sure nobody else was cold.


Thank you for your opinion, this will help us in the future we will hire better volunteers. 

Ray Sbriglia
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J.Miller
I would like to thank the Dirt Diggers for putting on the race. Like most MRANN races it had a great variety of Terrain. Some of those washes were bad ass. I liked that there was minimal whoops, a lot of virgin trail, and winding single track. I would have liked to see more course markings in a certain area but it sounds like it was just a communication error within the club. It was interesting with the lead pack roaming around like a pack of mustangs looking for ribbon. Overall i am just thankful that this club donated their time to give us a 100 mile race course to ride with our buddies. Long Live MRANN!
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wyattbrittner
Since I'm in the trailblazers club, which isn't short people, would it be allowed for me to switch to the gold diggers club since they are a lot smaller?
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JGatie
I thought the course was outstanding! There was two occasions where the course could've used more markings and it was irritating searching for ribbon and direction, but in the end over the next 75 or so miles if you're faster than the guy who found the course first you will end up where you should be. Thank you gold diggers and I plan on finishing one of your races some day. (2 years of dnf and I still want some more)
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Mmckimmy
Thanks to Gold Diggers for putting on a very tough race, it was truly a tough course.  I tried to thank all the workers for being out there and helping to organize the event. 

I respect Phil's opinions on the course.  Phil paid his money to compete and has the right to communicate thoughts about the event.  Some of the points are valid and some of the points I disagree with.  That's why this forum is great and we are all glad to have this communication line back.  We can all speak our opinion in an effort to make the racing series better and more safe (where possible).

The point I most agree with is the course marking.  I crashed really hard in the section that was poorely marked, broke my go pro and helmet, bike landed on top of me, and my body is completely sore today.  I understand that racing is a risk and can't really hold anyone in the club accountable.  I noticed Austin Wilson crashed at the exact same spot on the same rock on loop 2.  My only argument would be to have more pie plates in that area.  The rest of the course had the hazards marked very well.

The point I least agree with is the weather.  We all knew the conditions headed into this past weekend, and it was the riders responsibility to appropriately prepare.  There should be no blame placed on the club.  In fact, I was quite comfortable all day in my warm gear (except for the crashing part).

Looking forward to seeing everyone at the tankslappers race this weekend!  It should be a little bit warmer and we'll have the course marked well [smile].  Come out and have fun at the last MRANN event of the year.  Bring a friend or girlfriend, buy some T-shirts, and most of all, HAVE FUN!

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Nick Collin
Sorry it wasnt the ideal race for you. Everyone does things different. I for one hate riders meetings especially long drawn out ones. Were the little guys and we work with what we have. I would have rather been somewhere warm for the weekend and the 2 weekends before but no i did what i could so you could race. You wont have to worry about it next year as i will be somewhere warm enjoying myself in a different way.
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JGatie
Mmckimmy wrote:
Thanks to Gold Diggers for putting on a very tough race, it was truly a tough course.  I tried to thank all the workers for being out there and helping to organize the event. 

I respect Phil's opinions on the course.  Phil paid his money to compete and has the right to communicate thoughts about the event.  Some of the points are valid and some of the points I disagree with.  That's why this forum is great and we are all glad to have this communication line back.  We can all speak our opinion in an effort to make the racing series better and more safe (where possible).

The point I most agree with is the course marking.  I crashed really hard in the section that was poorely marked, broke my go pro and helmet, bike landed on top of me, and my body is completely sore today.  I understand that racing is a risk and can't really hold anyone in the club accountable.  I noticed Austin Wilson crashed at the exact same spot on the same rock on loop 2.  My only argument would be to have more pie plates in that area.  The rest of the course had the hazards marked very well.

The point I least agree with is the weather.  We all knew the conditions headed into this past weekend, and it was the riders responsibility to appropriately prepare.  There should be no blame placed on the club.  In fact, I was quite comfortable all day in my warm gear (except for the crashing part).

Looking forward to seeing everyone at the tankslappers race this weekend!  It should be a little bit warmer and we'll have the course marked well [smile].  Come out and have fun at the last MRANN event of the year.  Bring a friend or girlfriend, buy some T-shirts, and most of all, HAVE FUN!



I think I witnessed this. I said you better double check that you're alright cause that was gnarly. Glad you rode on.
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ziggy

Personally I had a great time. The course brought back great memories of racing in the late eighties in MRAN.  This area is great….it like riding a SNDR race around the Pannaca/Pioche area. SNDR races were kind of the same (put on by Lee and Keith Pearson-fathers of two AMA National hare and hound champions).  This course was totally old school….no burned in trail, had to look for ribbon, and had to read the terrain (limited dangers).  Back in the day races like gave MRAN riders great experiences that lead to producing some of the fastest desert racers in the country. Casey Folks(Multi time Baja 1000 class champion, Jack Johnson(Baja 1000 champion and Factory Nissan Off Road Racer, Scott Harden(Baja Champion, KTM vice president for a few years) Daryl Folks(Baja 1000 Champion, National Hare and hound 250 Champion), Danny Hamel(5 time National and hound Champion, Baja Champion) Scott Morris(Baja Champion), Dennis Belingheri(BITD champion both MRAN and MRANN Champion, Steve Tichenor, Lee Pearson, Keith Pearson, Russ Pearson(3 time National Champion), David Pearson(One time National Champion), Nick Pearson,  Nate Pearson and Greg Searle(Baja 1000 Champion and Whiskey Petes World Champion) competed in events like this. I hope that this club continues to put on “new” and challenging course that we will be talking about and remembering.  Some more dangers and ribbon couldn’t hurt and Phil did say -Overall I had fun like anytime on 2 wheels with good people.

Paul

           
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Racer770a
I thought it was great!!! I was first novice when I got lost. I was frustrated but I've been lost in plenty of other races, it happens. The course was awesome. Felt like what mrann was in 06/07. Tough, fresh, and fun. Cold but like was said, I was expecting it to be. I can't thank everyone enough for putting on these races and giving us an awesome hobby/sport.
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VibrantKTM
Thanks for the notes. I'm a club member but live in Fernley now so I just showed up to help last minute. As a novice rider I was gladI didn't have to race the whole track myself, but I feel like the Gold Diggers is getting known for gnarly, expert tracks and that's cool. I will make it a point to help more next year and get the course better marked.
Alexandra Reid
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cmaas
Loved the start...always a good idea to watch the Saturday races to get an idea on how the Sunday start is going to be...the weather was cold, but that is mother nature for you and racing in November...the course was challenging and fun...no doubt some vintage Searle sections that were great...got lost with everyone else...a few more markings and would have had my vote for race of the year...instead now everyone can vote for Lassen[smile]
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DertRhodes
Unfortunately my input about the race was evidently taken personally.  That was not my intention.  Clearly my reference to the weather and ice illustrates that point- not the fault of anyone.
I work in an industry that has no tolerance for repeat mistakes, and I have learned that if mistakes are ignored they will surely be repeated.  

My only motivation for writing the post was to bring up items that could be improved in future events.  
  
The guy in the moonrocks race who got jousted by a tree branch spent a week in the hospital-and that could have been prevented by a quick trim with a saw.  All of us that raced it know exactly the branch because we only missed it by a few inches.  We also know the same branches I mentioned in my post above-because most of us hit those branches.  
  
I have thick skin and can take the subtle (and not-so-subtle) digs about what I wrote.  To be honest I would write it again-(although I admit the title was a bit inflammatory)-because I think we have a wonderful sport with awesome people at every race. It is worth the effort to make our sport better.

For what its worth, I would volunteer to join the Gold Diggers next season if they are that short on people.  I had no idea!


 




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